The Gospel According to St. Bastard

While, I would like to buy a new FMTV, I'd rather have the military version, problem is there aren't enough spare parts out in the system yet to make it close to viable. The fact that it's marketed at the H2 crowd is also a major put off. Frankly, if money weren't an object and I were to get anything on the current made military market, it'd be either a Stryker or a Mk48 PLS. That of course assumes I have enough clams in one place to pay for the fuel costs, the service, and all the other costs that go with such a vehicle.

The thing I like about the FMTVs are:
Shorter wheelbase with cab over configuration
Good off road capability (you have to love the super singles)
New diagnostic system which short tracks you on servicing (think of a dealer's servicing computer in the cab)

Quite likely the in cab computer was removed for this civilian model with removes part of the appeal. I'm more likely to get a
Bedford MJ. Though I have been eyeing something like a Pinz, Valp or Landrover 101 FC. Obviously this class of truck is different than that which my M813A1 or a Bedford would fall into.

If and when I buy a new big truck, it'll be a Deuce that I'll customize the hell out of or something vintage. Either a CMP C60X or perhaps an AEC Matador.

I do have to point out that at least half of my collection (the Ferret and Dingo) fits comfortably into a standard car parking space both in length and width, but also height. The Humber being rather tall and heavy at 7 tons and the M813A1 being rather long and tall as well as heavy (11tons empty, 22 tons fully loaded).

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Oh, one of these is also a possibility. Advantages being, military, go anywhere, able to tow the required trailer to haul the dingo or ferret and well, better than an H2. But also cheaper too.

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Like I said, you're after true military toys that you can modify yourself. You don't want the lobotomized and blinged-out civvie versions that are only driven by men with too much money and too little penis.

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Well, the H1s aren't so bad. Interestingly, the CTIS was an option on the HUMMER Civie model before it was a feature of the Military HMMWVs. However, the H2 does little credence to the name. It does not have portal axles and has a more conventional body/frame with out the inherent ground clearance of the HUMMER/H1. The Civie HUMMER can be used quite competently off-road as it's very similar to the HMMWV less some creature comforts that aren't included in the Military contract HMMWVs. The H2 however has far lower ground clearance for it's size and the rigid rear axle rather reduces it's off road capability and axle articulation rather greatly. Its really a tarted up GMC Yukon with a HMMWV/HUMMER stylized body on it. Not much there really.

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That and you can buy a friggin house for what they cost. No thanks.

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They put a lot of tart in the tarting up process. Want to buy a capable HMMWV? Buy a residue chassis and start assembling drive train components on it. You can find doors, windows, roofs and other body components cheap now because they're coming off all the vehicles getting up armored.

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Hated driving and maintaining them when I was in uniform. Why would I want one as a civilian?

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Well, it would be yours and you'd be able to do with it as you will.

What's your ideal vehicle? An M151 Mutt? Gamma Goat (evil grin!)?

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'ere ya go. Cheap too. At least in this capacity, you could taunt someone in their $90,000 H2 about how much money they spent. Admittedly those are on the high end, but Jeff's put them back together from lots of bits and such so there's a bunch of work thats been done on them.

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Meh ... or in other words.

No Sir, I don't like it.

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H2 has less cred than an f150.

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i'd rather have this:
http://www.internationaldelivers.com/site_layout/xtfamily/cxt.asp

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Feh, two wheel drive, too much plastic and no PTO.

This starts at $4000 for a base truck and they want around $6000 to do the conversion. Though I can see it being lower. The big thing is cutting the frame, moving the braces (lots of drilling and welding) and then getting the front axle hangers off of a residue truck to mount the now single rear axle onto.

Features and Options are:
Front axle lockouts with Air shift front drive shaft engagement
front and rear PTO driven winches
hard top or canvas
Machine Gun Ring
2 ton cargo load off road with 4 tons on road.
15,000 lb towed load with air-brake engagement of the trailer

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not 2wd, awd.
brochure is a PDF linked from that site. :)

yours is undeniably cooler, but i stil prefer the cxt. it seats 6 adults, can haul 6 tons, has a 5 speed autobox, does 500,000 miles before overhaul, and you can get a tipper bed and dvd player. i suspect, although i haven't checked, that it's faster, too. also, it's deeply offensive to all bleeding heart liberals. :)

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What would you put in a bed that size that would weigh 4 ton's, let alone 6? Stone maybe, but it doesn't look like you could fit a car or even a small bobcat in that bed. and i don't know of many small cars that weigh 4 ton or more.

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landscaping stuff, skidoos, or building supplies. or a fifth wheel for a big caravan. you couldn't get a car into it because of the height. it's the bed off an f-350, btw - the size of the truck makes it look much smaller.

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their isn't enough room in the bed of 1 ton pickup to fit 6 tons of anything unless you are hulling lead or gold or something you might possibly put a 6 ton block of marble or some other stone in there but I'm not sure how big that would be. I can haul skidoos with my dakota. You couldn't put that much landscape stuff in that bed. you need an actual dump truck with a 5 foot tall bed to haul 6 tons of gravel, and you could bury that truck with 6 tons of mulch. Maybe bricks or paving stone if you stack it high enough and tie it down but i don't think so. If your going to use concrete then you get a mix truck. You could get 120 bags of concrete mix at 100 lbs a bag in there but you would need to load and unload it by hand from a raised bed w/o breaking them and mix it by hand which would take for ever. the bed is to high for a 5th wheel trailer because it needs to clear those rear tires, even if it wasn't your back to driving a tractor-trailer which makes the whole thing pointless. Even if the bed was big enough to be able to put say 6 tons of gravel in, or anything else, at that point you would need a class B CDL to drive it. and as for towing if you can't tow it with a standard 1 ton pickup then again you need a CDL and a special trailer. The only nice thing is the cab but you can get that sort of thing from Ford, GM, or Dodge and you can get it on a 5 ton heavy duty dump truck with a CAT engine and Alison tranny and doesn't require a CDL, it won't be an air ride cab but you only need an air ride cab for a semi tractor because it needs such a heavy duty suspension. The CXT is useless and the only people who could afford it and would actually buy it are the type of yuppie scum pricks who couldn't control it and wind up causing a Major accident. The MXT is the only one that would be worth the effort.

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'The new Maibatsu Monstrosity - "Mine's Bigger" '

M.

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"There's a certain group of people who color outside the box," Ayres said, and if they want to escape a city targeted by terrorists with dirty bombs or biological agents, "this is the truck for them."

In our school, kids who coloured outside the box rode in their own short bus too.

M.

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