Date: 2006-02-03 09:17 pm (UTC)

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He also said "We also saw corruption in that part of the world. And corruption is something that is corrosive of democracy."

Never was a truer word spoken...
Date: 2006-02-03 09:47 pm (UTC)

From: [identity profile] montieth.livejournal.com
People that invoke Godwins law are doomed to repeat history. Because they haven't learned. ;-)

Chavez does bear a striking resemblance to herr schikelgruber. However, I doubt he'll ever be as ruthless, efficient or calculating as that paper hanging sonofabitch was. He'll me more of a Mussolini if anything. Drag his country down and then, hopefully, end up strung up dead from a lamp post.

Wait for the war between Venezuela and some neighboring country in the hopes of getting the US involved. Hmm, Does Venezuela share a border with Belieze? Maybe we could get to watch the Brits beat the snot out of another Latin American Country that forgot who was who in the world. *check's map* Not even close. OOh, perhaps they'll pick on Brazil and Portugal will get involved. Though, I doubt Brazil will need even that much help defeating Venezuela.

Also, interesting thing about Chavez is that he was involved in a Military Coup against the Democratic government in 1992. He served jail time for that. Now, he names his political opponents coup plotters. Seems vaguely Hitleresque to me. Especially his increasing control of private corporations. Seems rather fascist to me (now, if he nationalizes a bunch of private firms, then he's more communist...).

So many people who choose to invoke Godwin's law just don't understand what it Hitler really was and what he did.
Date: 2006-02-03 10:07 pm (UTC)

From: [identity profile] canticle.livejournal.com
Given that Venezuela shares extremely good relations at the moment with most of the rest of South America (Chile, Brazil and Bolivia most certainly, with the others neutral at best), I sincerely doubt there's any military adventures in Hugo Chavez' future. And he's not shy about his past history of plotting and scheming, he certainly does nothing to hide that history from the world.

And how, exactly is he dragging his country down? I don't agree with him politically, but the people of Venezuela, overall, are better off now than they have been in over two decades. The wealthy and middle class aren't any worse off beyond the fact their investments aren't making the colossal profit they used to be making when Venezuela's oil wealth went almost exclusively to a small minority of the population. Instead, more Venezuela's have access to health care and education than ever before, and prices of necessities have gone down.

If Chavez ever does more than constantly prod and poke the Bush Regime, I'll worry about him, but his only crime so far is being unafraid of calling the Bush Regime what he thinks it is and not being afraid to do it.
Date: 2006-02-03 10:16 pm (UTC)

From: [identity profile] montieth.livejournal.com
Fact is relations between Columbia and Venezuela are strained. It doesn't help that Venezuela has shown some tacit support for the guerillas that are operating over their border into Columbia.

And how, exactly is he dragging his country down? I don't agree with him politically, but the people of Venezuela, overall, are better off now than they have been in over two decades. The wealthy and middle class aren't any worse off beyond the fact their investments aren't making the colossal profit they used to be making when Venezuela's oil wealth went almost exclusively to a small minority of the population. Instead, more Venezuela's have access to health care and education than ever before, and prices of necessities have gone down.

So the national strikes are indicative of significant support for him? Nice social programs require money to fund them. If you have a big healthy economy, you can bleed it a bit more for such things. If you have a straggly economy, then it doesn't survive very long. We'll see how long he stays in power and how long his cronies start to arrange things more to their benefit over a longer period of time. If the democratic process really breaks down, it'll get to be a problem. His past involvement in a military coup against a democratically elected government seems to indicate a decided lack of respect for democratic process. Time will tell.

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