Thank you thryn

[razorjak]

OJ ... straight out the nose.

Please someone make a backup of this before it gets taken down!

http://www.chevyapprentice.com/view.php?country=us&uniqueid=b3df6dec-0caa-1029-98eb-0013724ff5a7

Yes yes I know the whole deal about global warming and the next ice age. It's still amazingly funny.

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[ogremarco.livejournal.com]

Beautiful.

[montieth.livejournal.com]

And why do you buy into this concept of targeting one particular subset of the population as the cause of all evil in the world? It could be argued that our preference for fossil fuels for electrical generation rather than using nuclear energy. Pebble bed Reactors or ESBWRs. But No, we have to keep using coal and natural gas for our elecrical generation. At least we're not burning diesel fuel any more for power generation.

Oh, and lets just ignore that the CAFE standards for fuel efficiency actually paved the way for the SUV as a viable product. Up to then the only people that had anything like an SUV was the grown up boyscout driving around in a Toyota Land Cruiser or some kind of Jeep wagon or Landrover.

[razorjak.livejournal.com]

You know I don't "buy into blaming one group for the cause of all evil in the world". There are greedy and evil entities at every point of the scale.

You like to spin about how a lot of the stuff started with prior administrations. What has been done during this one to CORRECT things?

But seriously, on the SUV tip. No, they aren't the sole cause of everything. But ANYONE who lives in an urban setting and uses a vehicle which gets less than 15 mpg as their DAILY mode of transportation needs to have their nuts put in a vice.

It blew my mind looking at some of the SUVs I saw for sale in local lots. Specifially the new Jeeps. My '72 Catalina got almost the same gas mileage!

[montieth.livejournal.com]

But ANYONE who lives in an urban setting and uses a vehicle which gets less than 15 mpg as their DAILY mode of transportation needs to have their nuts put in a vice.

Except people that want the cargo space, kid space and grocery space and don't want a station wagon or mini van have this as the only choice. Or they could have multiple smaller cars that don't do the job either. It is their choice to make. Used to be the only choice for this was a van a land yacht station wagon with those fold down seats and not a lot of head room, or a suburban. The suburban seemed to be the ultimate vehicle for this in the 70s and early 80s. Interesting it's name, almost a kind of foreshadowing.

My biggest complaint is that we can't get the good light off road vehicle that the brits can in the form of the Toyota Landcruiser and that good old 4 Runner/Hilux.

[razorjak.livejournal.com]

Maybe it's different where you live. The VAST majority of people I've seen driving the high-end gas-guzzling SUVs are college aged kids who's daddy bought it for them or started themselves on the road to eternal fiscal slavery by buying one themselves. The next bracket I've seen are yuppy fucks who bought it simply for the status symbol. Then ... WAYYYY down there is the housewife who has one for the reasons you gave and bought that over a minivan because they think they're "safer" (*HAH*). Or because their hubby refused to buy a minivan for fear of being seen driving one.

I can count on both hands the number of people I've seen driving an SUV who actually knew how to handle one.

You need a seperate license for motorcycles in many (if not all) states. I think there should be the same thing for SUVs.

[mspaintchuk.livejournal.com]

The german company Loremo has a concept car that gets 150 mpg. Starting price should be around $13,100. Full production is not until 2009 though and it's small. But it's a start.

[montieth.livejournal.com]

We'll see it when it's for sale. I stopped trusting vapor ware cars a long time ago. My Honda Insight makes a lot of compromises for 65mpg on the highway.

[mspaintchuk.livejournal.com]

Wife has a honda. I have to say I fucking hate those things.

[montieth.livejournal.com]

You need a seperate license for motorcycles in many (if not all) states. I think there should be the same thing for SUVs.

Full stop dude. You're asking for more incremental mother may I bureaucracy at the local and state level with even more complexity of laws, licensing and regulation. We do not need more licenses for things. Perhaps better drivers licenses testing and exams, but not more licenses. *Hack Pttewwii!*

[razorjak.livejournal.com]

Perhaps better drivers licenses testing and exams, but not more licenses.

Oh I'm all for making the process of getting a driver's license to actually entail knowing how to fucking drive. But that's not the case in a lot of places apparently.

Any politard that actually strove to make it harder to get a drivers license would be committing career suicide. A fair number of those who vote are ones who have no fucking business being on the road.

In my opinion, SUVs handle different than cars. Different enough that one should need a seperate endorsement for driving one. You need a seperate endorsement for your deuce and a half, don't you?

Again, maybe it's just my personal experiences and there ARE responsible SUV drivers out there. But from what I've seen, most accidents that SUVs are involved in are CAUSED by them.

[montieth.livejournal.com]

In my opinion, SUVs handle different than cars. Different enough that one should need a seperate endorsement for driving one. You need a seperate endorsement for your deuce and a half, don't you?

A Class C license covers up to 26,000 lbs and a trailer weight of 10,000lbs or less. Thats sub compact car up to a 13 ton truck with a 5 ton trailer. The Deuce is 24,000 GVW so I could drive it with a class C license. I have a non-commercial class A because I was certain that if I configured the truck for a properly setup trailer, the trailer would weigh more than 10,000 lbs and thus I'd have to have a class A license for the vehicle. Class A covers a pickup towing a 10,001 lb trailer up to a full on tractor trailer with no difference considered in the range. That's federal guidelines for the truck configurations if they're commercial. If it's not commercial, the feds don't care about it. Strangely, the FMCSA is the only federal agency that seems specifically uninterested in making EVERYTHING interstate commerce to expand their powers. Which has the agency earning huge points with me. Interstate Commerce to them is you doing something specifically related to a business. Going to another state and spending money is not that. You have to do it in connection with a commercial enterprise on your end, be it a 1 man business or a racing sponsorship.

Again, maybe it's just my personal experiences and there ARE responsible SUV drivers out there. But from what I've seen, most accidents that SUVs are involved in are CAUSED by them.

My experience was that its the typical individual thats self absorbed. In days gone by that was people in volvo station wagons. The British motorcyclist have the exact same view of volvos. AS the SUV craze bloomed, some of it transferred to them, but it's really unrelated to the car. I've seen all sorts of utterly clueless people out there. My biggest complaint with SUVs or large vehicles in general is when they get right on my back bumper and want me to go faster when there's no way I can (traffic ahead). I've actually toyed with rear facing brake fluid squirters to push them back. But that'd really go for any vehicle that I see right in my rearview and can't see in my side view mirrors very well.