Yet more Texas jackassery

[razorjak]

Undercover cops arresting drinkers in bars.

Yet another reason to NOT live in Bushco's adopted state.(*)

Hmmm, they want to have more surveillance than London(**), including in private homes. They want to arrest you for drinking in bars. What's next? Arresting you for smoking in a Cigar Store? Breaking your kneecaps just in case you may jaywalk?

(*) Yes, texans. I do realize he wasn't born there. But you morons allowed him to become Governor. You deserve the ridicule just as much as new England does for being the spawning ground.

Comments

[lil-m-moses.livejournal.com]

I assume you already know that sex toys are technically illegal here, right? They have to be sold as "novelty gifts".

[razorjak.livejournal.com]

*NOD* I think J. Grant jokes about it quite a bit.

[jruske.livejournal.com]

Woo-hoo! So it begins. This will be great!

First there were bars and clubs with less smoke so we could breath. Soon there will be bars and clubs with people who are pleasantly intoxicated but not falling down drunk, barfing in the toilets, and making asses of themselves.

I'm not sure why you're complaining Jak. Drunks have been the bane of many a club night and if people will not drink responsibly then they had to expect eventually police would realise this was a great recurring revenue stream to jump on.

[razorjak.livejournal.com]

A club makes it's money at the bar. They don't make their money at the door. They don't make their money on the live bands. They make the monmey at the bar.

This type of things gets around and it'd make a lot of people afraid to come out for fear of arrest. That would leave only the nondrinkers or those who may have one or two over the course of the night. NO drinking establishment can survive like that.

Are you willing to pay cover at 5 to 10 times what you do now in order to go out? because that'd be the ONLY way a bar/club could even think to recoup their losses.

And don't EVEN get me started on the revenue stream comment.

[jruske.livejournal.com]

A club makes it's money at the bar.

I agree. I may not think that's right or the best way of doing things, but it's clearly how most bars and clubs work.

So here's the quandary for you... if a club/bar makes its money selling alcohol then what's its responsibility for patrons who drink way beyond their limits? How much cost and time goes into dealing with the few utter twits who don't understand drinking until you throw up is not appropriate or necessary? How much additional staff is working the place just to protect it from the liability associated with these imbeciles?

Now take it a step further. Said drunk assholes hit the streets. Now how much additional cost is it to everyone - going out or not - to subsidize the police, the emergency responders, the battery shelters, the vehicle and medical insurance... ? What's the social cost to not only encouraging the behaviour at the bar, but also dealing with the effects on communities and people?

Why should our society have to put up with drunk and disorderly people and pay for it too?

This type of things gets around and it'd make a lot of people afraid to come out for fear of arrest. That would leave only the nondrinkers or those who may have one or two over the course of the night. NO drinking establishment can survive like that.

I call bullshit. There's no reason this would keep the average and moderate drinkers from coming out. Heck, it won't even discourage the people who drink until they pass out. Why? Because the moderate and average drinkers will, hopefully correctly, assume this doesn't apply to them. And the drunks - well they're usually in so much self-denial that they aren't going to think it applies to them either.

So if it doesn't really dissuade anyone from drinking...

Did I mention recurring revenue stream?

Frankly the only people that will take notice of this are bar owners who will want to know when police are casing their establishments, staff who will want to warn off their good people as necessary, and people who weren't going out to bars and clubs in the first place.

[razorjak.livejournal.com]

There's nothing saying they're only going after the out-of-control drunks. They could be arresting anyone who hits a breathalizer.

Which seems more likely what they're doing as I've been told that they're pulling people even if they've got designated drivers.