Date: 2006-07-23 12:51 pm (UTC)

From: [identity profile] absinthea.livejournal.com
OK, well I don't really dig on the whole aborted fetus stem cell thing, but one of the comments he made kind of made me (and organ procurement organizations probably) say "eh?!?" He mentioned that he vetoed the bill not because of a religious opposition but because "we shouldn't be using our children for spare parts". That particular wording makes it sound like organ donation is a despicable procedure, because it would seem to be more along the lines of the "spare parts" ideology than stem cell research.
Date: 2006-07-23 01:07 pm (UTC)

From: [identity profile] razorjak.livejournal.com

The majority of stem cell research would be using materials from invetro clinics that would otherwise be discarded. There's no "children" being used for spare parts.

It's yet another topic in which he claims to have the moral high ground and an informed opinion; When he's actually nothing but a drooling simpleton shitting his pants while playing in a sandbox.
Date: 2006-07-23 01:27 pm (UTC)

From: [identity profile] absinthea.livejournal.com
On the invitro clinic topic-- oh my gosh those people are crazy!!! Does any couple *really* need to create and freeze an assload of embryos?! Unless they want to beat the Duggar family out of the title of "first family to have eleventy billion children". If he really wants to limit the stem cell research, he needs to start by finding ways to limit the crazy number of those discarded embryos...you don't wait until they are there (because if he is using religion as an excuse, he'd believe life begins at conception and it would be morally reprehensible to create a bunch of lives that people are just going to end up discarding anyway) and then try to defend them.
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Date: 2006-07-23 10:20 pm (UTC)

From: [identity profile] absinthea.livejournal.com
ITA wholeheartedly about the clinics being a bit creepy (I think I am outing myself here just a bit...).
You get mega kudos for mentionig adoption. I think I offically love you now :)
Date: 2006-07-23 02:31 pm (UTC)

From: [identity profile] stormsoffury.livejournal.com
Speaking from a view point where I am someone who could benifit from stem cell research in so many ways, I dont see why people wouldnt be for it. It is using cells that would otherwise be trash.
And it may cost money to do the research and get it going, but think of the money it would save once it is successful and put into place. I know my meds alone cost around 600-700 a month without insurance, add onto that doctors visits, lab work etc...and all this over the course of the last 20 years of my life. The money adds up for both the patient and the insurance companies.
If stem cell research was allowed to go on like they would like it to, I would be able to have my full eyesight back, possibly be rid of my diabeties, and the multitude of other complications that will eventualy arrise from it as my life goes on.

Just my 2 cents.
Date: 2006-07-23 05:04 pm (UTC)

From: [identity profile] ladycelest.livejournal.com
With Diabeties now appearing to run in my family, along with crap knees, I too could benifit from soem stem cell reasearch(although not on the scale you would.
Date: 2006-07-24 07:40 am (UTC)

From: [identity profile] razorjak.livejournal.com

Preaching to the choir, but you knew that.

I've a cousin with CP so bad he is wheelchair bound and has lost the ability to speak over the last 4 decades.

I've many friends with MS.

Parkinson's runs in my adopted dad's family. So does alzheimer's.

The fact that he picked THIS to be the first thing he vetoed is BEYOND ME!

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