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BrickJAK ([personal profile] razorjak) wrote2003-03-05 02:20 pm

The Land of the Free ...

Gotta love the war-mongering fucktards in this country.

http://abcnews.go.com/wire/US/reuters20030304_651.html

I want to find out if the security guards in question were responding to a complaint of a mall patron or if they were just reacting in the overzealous "Everyone else is wrong because we're right" nature that I am seeing more and more.

The guy better countersue.

[identity profile] serpent-sky.livejournal.com 2003-03-05 12:31 pm (UTC)(link)
(i posted this elsewhere, but it's what I think) ^_^

In these troubled times, people more than ever need to be sensitive to the needs and wishes of others, and daring to promote a message like peace is appalling. I just said it above.. in these troubled times. Peace would create non-troubled times, ostensibly,peaceful times, which would be a disaster for THE CAUSE. (You know, THE CAUSE. It's very important. No, I can't tell you what it is.)

Anyway, the guy in the mall was probably French, or from some other enemy country who doesn't support the war, so who cares? Make him eat "Liberty Fries" like a real 'Merkin, and wear a goddamned non-peace shirt, because everyone knows them thar boys in the middle east are not fighting for his freedom to wear something THAT offensive.

*smirk*

christ.

[identity profile] ex-amontilla107.livejournal.com 2003-03-05 12:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Speaking as both one of the "warmongering fucktards" and "them thar boys in the middle east" (or at least one with a high likelyhood, at the grace of the USMC.) I got to say I hope this lawyer give that police department, that mall, and both of those rent-a-thugs an ass reaming of truly epic proportions. I mean the kind of severe civic and financial assualt that is so horrific as to provoke uncontrollable weeping from the eyes of the tender hearted.

Talk about people unclear of the concept..."Hello, dick heads, WE ARE ALLOWED TO SAY WHAT WE WANT HERE! They _aren't_ in Iraq. Can anyone see the math on that, you monkey fuckers?"

Clots.

Re: christ.

[identity profile] razorjak.livejournal.com 2003-03-05 01:21 pm (UTC)(link)

Yeah - funny how the same people who are for the war tend to be guilty of quite a number of the things that they claim as reasons to "Nuke Iraq till they glow."

Irony is lost on the ignorant. Akin to the pro-lifers who complain about the courts not having the right to do what they want with their bodies in regards to how close they can come to abortion clinics when they protest.


[identity profile] beanie-2.livejournal.com 2003-03-05 03:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I really don't see what was wrong with that t-shirt. It's not like he was promoting bombing. I'm also sure that being a lawyer himself, he will sue the pants off of them.

Speech

[identity profile] montieth.livejournal.com 2003-03-05 05:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I disagree with the overall concept of infringing on this guy's free speech in such a public place. Even though it's a mall and technically private. However, I'm not in favor of what he had to say re Iraq.

Re: Speech

[identity profile] pet-me.livejournal.com 2003-03-06 07:11 pm (UTC)(link)
all he bloody well said was "give peace a chance"

~I~ have a bloody t-shirt that says that! what the hell???

[identity profile] goffchick.livejournal.com 2003-03-05 09:06 pm (UTC)(link)
!

?

!

I don't even have the words. Other than, "What the fuck?!?"

[identity profile] professor-eight.livejournal.com 2003-03-06 06:59 am (UTC)(link)
Downs is the director of the Albany Office of the state Commission on Judicial Conduct, which investigates complaints of misconduct against judges and can admonish, censure or remove judges found to have engaged in misconduct.


I wanna know if it actually gets tried... and what the results of it will be... I mean... I think that the outcome will be more important than him getting jailed...

besides that, I can't have a comment either way... since I'm a "stick to the posted rules" kinda guy... and with the advent of HotTopic-esque stores and gang related violence, most malls and public shopping centres have taken to posting "rules and regulations of being a mall rat."

I'm down for the system of justice which seems to prevail here in the subcontinent... "do something stupid, pay the price."

Re:

[identity profile] razorjak.livejournal.com 2003-03-06 11:25 am (UTC)(link)

Well I'll keep you updated since I'll be following it as a way to keep my mind of the shitstorm I am going through right now.

How are you doing now? Things settled at all?

[identity profile] professor-eight.livejournal.com 2003-03-07 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
*thinks*

I've realized the joys of melfoquine....

*coughsbullshitcoughs*

and, really... no, not really... nothing's changed, everything's the same... yay.

things have gotten worse.... there have been many a day where I've teetered on the bring, decided to brand myself for a while, in a juvenile attempt at attention gathering...

I can't wait to see a shrink... put his grandchildren through college.

[identity profile] pet-me.livejournal.com 2003-03-06 07:14 pm (UTC)(link)
how does wearing at-shirt that says "give peace a chance" break any rules or regulations?

maybe "Bust a cap in that honkeys' bitch ass"

or "I will eat your first born child- mmmn tastey"

but not that. When did peace become a negative thing?

Re:

[identity profile] razorjak.livejournal.com 2003-03-06 07:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Since Shrubbie and his keepers have said so.

[identity profile] professor-eight.livejournal.com 2003-03-06 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)
_I_ concur with your statement... however, these are the same people that say "traveling in groups larger than 3 persons is not acceptable."

*rolls eyes*

it's all about "keeping the peace"

clearly it's offensive to some, since I sit here in India, and watch anti-war protesters on tv... and then see the subsequent interviews with pro-war protesters, whom take the chance to scream into the microphone such things as: "Those people should be locked up and jailed for treason!"

I would simply like to see the other side of the coin... that is, if the "give peace a chance" shirts are not allowed to be worn, then the "we're on their soil, get that oil" shirt can't be worn in the same place either...

in fact, no propaganda...

then no advertisement...

except Oakley and Sony... 'cause I'm a whore for their products ;)

you'll have to excuse my lack of... well, sense this morning, I just woke up

[identity profile] pet-me.livejournal.com 2003-03-08 06:28 pm (UTC)(link)
see, your point kind of raises another. isn't America supposed to be fighting for ~freedom~?

Doesn't freedom include self expression?

And aren't they supposed to be ~above~ the Iraqi's, with the "Those people should be locked up and jailed for treason!"?

If so- the treatment this man recieved is a tad bit hypocritical. (by tad I mean very)
Not to mention- contradictory...

tho, I am glad you agree with my point- and I agree with yours- just as Rob Zombie t-shirts sporting pentacles can't be worn in public schools- neither should "what would Jesus do" bracelets and the like.

It's the same thing, really- except Zombie fans haven't decided to retaliate with warheads yet.

But- war has always seemed one sided to me. Why should ~anything~ ever change?



[identity profile] professor-eight.livejournal.com 2003-03-08 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
people don't want freedom of choice, they want freedom from choice....

what, EXACTLY, are you allowed to say under the current "freedom of speach"?

can't say anything against the president... isn't that treason?
can't say anything against terrorism, it's for "your own protection..."

Korrematsu vs. The US says that you can't even have freedoms in a time of war.... so, the least that you have to worry about is whether or not you are wearing the right T-Shirt and whether or not your saying the right thing... worry about what freedoms will be eroded the second that Bush says "war"

remember, this isn't a freedom of choice issue, when you get down to it... THIS issue is a tresspassing issue. he was on private property... he was asked to leave.... He knew the rules of staying inside this private property, and he refuses to follow them... (again, for HIS safety)so he sufferent the consequences... rather like "don't touch the fire, you'll burn yourself" game that all children go through....

play with fire, get burned...

that is one of the absolute, most DISGUSTING things I've ever heard...

[identity profile] pet-me.livejournal.com 2003-03-06 07:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I get more and more proud of my country as members of my parlaiment bash the SHIT OUT OF YOURS!!!!!!!!!!



On that note- the most recent member of my parlaiment known to have bashed the war mongering pieces of shit went on television- the Mike Bullard show(former mp)- to say.... she was sorry for sectioning out an entire country.

Next time... she'll be more specific of who the IDIOTS are... instead of singling out an entire society.


Jak, have I told you lately how much I love my country? Aside from the cold STREAK that is.


It's march. Why is there no sunshine? Why not any mud puddles to bounce through?


I say war and yanks have jinxed us!!!