razorjak: (bush no-sense)
BrickJAK ([personal profile] razorjak) wrote2008-02-28 01:00 pm

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So Chimpy McFuckstick doesn't think we're heading into a recession.

He thinks it's "patentedly" unfair if the telecom companies are actually held accountable for their illegal actions.

...

I can't even go on. My brain wants to implode from listening to that dipshit.

Obama and the Assault Weapons Ban.

[identity profile] montieth.livejournal.com 2009-02-26 07:32 pm (UTC)(link)
You're one of the people I remembered stuck to their guns on Obama not being a bad politician/president for guns, dispite a LOT of contrary evidence.

He admittedly sought a ban on the sale of semi-automatic firearms back in
1998. However, people's opinions about things do change.


Still think he changed his opinion or do you think he was just telling people what they thought they wanted to hear? AG Holder just announced plans to re-introduce the Assault Weapons Ban. I'm pretty darn certain we'll see MORE types of weapons included in what's banned. Down to things with enbloc clips like Garands and weapons like the M1 Carbine classified as assault weapons. The versions I've seen floated around for the past year or so are FAR more intrusive and FAR more expansive.

We're also hearing rumblings of plans to close down exports of ammunition to countries like Canada and other State department level controls on the import of firearms parts to pretty much close down inexpensive soviet block parts for AK and SKS type weapons. Barrels, magazines, etc

Consider this the "I bloody well told you so." comment.
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Re: Obama and the Assault Weapons Ban.

[identity profile] montieth.livejournal.com 2009-02-28 06:26 pm (UTC)(link)
1. Go look at my journal and note that I am not here anymore.


I couldn't' give a fetid pair of dingo's kidneys where you 'are'. I just had to see whether you could honestly stand your ground or not. Clearly you cannot.

2. Holder said that they wanted to reinstitute the ban on the sale of assault weapons.. He didn't say anything about adding new weapons to the ban or anything else.

Keep whistling past the graveyard. Nice that you CANNOT be intellectually honest though. Though, I think if you look at the various versions of AWB II that have floated around over the past few years, you'll find the scope and depth of the ban has been expanded. I'm pretty sure they'll try some confiscatory language in the proposed bill, at least early on, until the FBI shits a brick, again.

3. I couldn't give two shits if they did stop exporting ammunition to Canada or stopped the import of parts for AK and SKS type weapons.

Or I guess raise FFL fees or change interpretations that gun-smithing is manufacturing a new firearm. No infringement of our rights there right?

4.Grow the fuck up.

I am. Have you?

Your contention was that Obama was NOT anti-gun 'any more'. You can't even admit your contention was utterly wrong. Show some honesty like an adult instead of shifting your position or prevaricating.
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Re: Obama and the Assault Weapons Ban.

[identity profile] montieth.livejournal.com 2009-03-01 03:46 am (UTC)(link)
What is it going to take? President Obama himself, showing up at your door demanding your firearms? His AG nominee stated they, the president and his administration, are going to seek to renew the AWB. Your contention was that Obama had turned over a new leaf. You're wrong, no matter how much you try to shift the goal post.


What has actually been done rather than what might be done. Oh wait, you have yet to do that in any argument I've ever had with you.

I cited bills that Senator Obama voted for, his stated record, and his stated preferences. More recently I cited his own AG's public statement as a representative of the administration.

Maybe YOU should look at the facts.