ext_121383 ([identity profile] montieth.livejournal.com) wrote in [personal profile] razorjak 2008-02-29 12:16 am (UTC)

I have seen the light! You are totally right, it is all those slackers on the Dole that is emptying the US coffers!

Let's look at the entire budgets of those evil liberal departments of the Executive, shall we (2008)?

$67.650 Billion - Department of Health and Human Services
$55.995 Billion - Department of Education
$35.201 Billion - Department of Housing and Human Development
$10.610 Billion - Department of the Interior
$7.200 Billion - Environmental Protection Agency
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$176.656 Billion for Liberal Slackers and Losers

Huh.


Aren't you forgetting a few line items?
$608 billion (+4.5%) - Social Security
$386 billion (+5.2%) - Medicare
$209 billion (+5.6%) - Medicaid and the State Children's Health Insurance
$324 billion (+1.8%) - Unemployment/Welfare/Other mandatory spending

$481.406 Billion - Department of Defense
$145.200 Billion - Additional for the War on Terra
$34.998 Billion - Department of State
$39.418 Billion - For the underfunded Department of Veteran Affairs
$.340 Billion - Office of the President
$34.288 Billion - For that new, Republican small-government innovation that is rocking the world with its effectiveness and competence, the Department of Homeland Security
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$735.650 Billion* - The cost of world Jingoism**


Thanks for the intellectual honesty. Are you intentionally rolling the entire cost of the Defense Department, the State department, Veterans Affairs and other segments of the Discretionary spending into the War on Terror? How honest of you.

Because Even BEFORE the WAR on Terror...

The Department of Veteran's Affiars had a budget of $45 Bil in 2001 and the DOD had a budget of $281 Bil in 2000 and $293 Bil in 2001. ACtual spending in 2007 for the VA was $72.6 Billion for the VA and $548.8 billion for the DOD.

In 1962 the DOD accounted for 46.9% of the Federal Budget. It accounted for 15 percent in 2000. The Department of Health and Human Services accounts for 21.4% today. Explain that please.

A great deal of the Federal Military budget relates to maintenance of existing systems and development of new systems. Those new systems need to be brought online to replace hardware which has reached end of life regardless of it's use in Iraq or not. Or, are all those things baby killing implements to you as well?

Half of it is construction of facilities for the military and replacement of old facilities. We still have barracks buildings that were built in WWII. I guess if they were prisoners it would be cruel and unusual punishment but since they're not, you figure it's only just that the 'imperialist war mongers' live in such decrepit facilities?

Or, are you proposing that we get rid of those Social Security entitlements that were paid into by the men that fought real wars? You've spent a lot of time standing on their shoulders comparing our current misadventures to World War II, are you going to fuck them over now because social security has been dishonestly raided instead of being the separate fund as it was always promised?


You're going to call Funding for the Department of Veterans Affairs Jingoism and you're laying that sort of shit on me? How nice of you. Why don't you just spit on Jak and be done with it. He's a vet and I guess in your book is an imperialist jingoism perpetrating baby killer. Or perhaps you'd like to rephrase your statement above?


Here's a fact for you. Social Security under the current scheme is not guaranteed. When the Republicans proposed a system where it WOULD be the Democrats screamed bloody murder. My mother died at age 55. Me and my sister never saw a cent of that money. My mother never saw a cent. Social Security under the current scheme is a ponzi scheme and nothing more. It's a tax. Nothing else. Statements from the Social Security Administration not withstanding.

We've got a Democratically controlled congress. They haven't cut spending, they increased it. Have the fixed Social Security? No they have not.

No matter how you argue it, the social programs take the lions share of the Federal Budget. If you were so concerned about cutting it, you'd be looking to cut the pork with the $20 Billion of pork and perhaps trying to trim down some of the social programs.


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