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[razorjak]

So Chimpy McFuckstick doesn't think we're heading into a recession.

He thinks it's "patentedly" unfair if the telecom companies are actually held accountable for their illegal actions.

...

I can't even go on. My brain wants to implode from listening to that dipshit.

Comments

[geekalpha.livejournal.com]

" Address the point SIR."

Your affectation of smarmy politeness doesn't impress me.

You're high-handed Coultier-style of discourse is fundamentally insulting, and I am predisposed to lack respect for you based on our previous engagement. If I recall you promised me a dismissive "Good day to you, sir!" which I kind of hoped was permanent.

As for the rest, post graphs all you like. The fact is that
1. The hobby of blowing shit up overseas costs money.

2. Deposing Saddam Hussien eliminated exactly zero clear and present threats to the United States.

3. The case for invasion of Iraq, sold to the American public and the world, was entirely fabricated.

4. Efforts in Iraq distracted from useful efforts against Al Queda and the Taliban in Afghanistan, resulting in the current resurgence of Taliban, which has the local commander begging NATO hat-in-hand for more troops (which the US cannot provide due to Iraq)

5. The budget surplus in 2000 was squandered on tax-cuts, which was not a terrible decision at the time, except that it completely shirks that responsibility of our government to reduce the national debt. And, before you start, the preposterous "it will pay for itself" story is bullshit and has been debunked thoroughly

6. After lying to the American people to go in to Iraq, billions of dollars out of an already deficit budget were dumped into Iraq, doing it on the cheap. This of course backfires, so every year a do-or-die budget request gets made begging for billions more "or you are not supporting the troops."

7. Every year for 5 years, we were told that it was getting better in Iraq and we were almost there, but all the statistics no matter how they were manipulated spelled "bloodbath." The surge was too little, too late. But most importantly? Iraq was a waste of effort to begin with, except as a means to forward a domestic agenda of Conservative power, so claims can be made of war-time powers. Because, having tanks rolling around the desert looks a lot more like a war than the in-the-shadows fearmongering horseshit that is the War on Terra(tm).

8. Having been lied to for 5 years, the administration has no credibility, and neither due Coultier-esque talking-point jingoists smuggly waving the flag and using the troops as a shield for their irrational rhetoric.

9. Having burdened the country with this enormous expense of an unnecessary invasion, and a completely mismanaged and seemingly perpetual occupation, now you have the gall to blame poor people for having TVs.

First of all, that $608 billion in entitlements doesn't go to Catrina victims in FEMA trailers, it goes to retired people. Secondly, a simple review of US demographics will demonstrate that not only was an increase in SS outlays completely predictable due to aging baby-boomers, but we are only just getting started.

You blame welfare, but invoke Social Security. You raid the social security insurance payment as "just a tax" but refuse to pay benefits that people have been paying into for their entire lives. And you know, that you don't like SS is fine with me. What is dishonest, is that you equate SS to low-income housing and welfare which is a lie.

You are saying "war war war support the war!" But you are not serving and you will not spend a dime to support it yourself. Instead, you want you way and you will just blame the poor (inaccurately) and threaten the old to try to divert the discussion from the fact that the Bush administration has been entirely dishonest and irresponsible across the board.

No amount of flag-waving, fear-mongering, blaming Bill Clinton, quoting irrelevant bullshit, and painting a pretty face on the economy sucking is going to get your credibility back.

[geekalpha.livejournal.com]

*eye roll*

Your statement about the Constitution is preposterous, and you invoke it like the Bush administration has not done more to undermine that document than any administration in our lifetimes.

Fine.

Article 1, Section 8,
"The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;"

"To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof."

A lawyer you are not. Don't quit your day job.

Entitlements are not strictly forbidden by the Constitution, "the general welfare" is meant to be enterpreted, and Congress bills that get signed in to law, meaning that if there is a welfare law that passed by a congress and a president, then it is fucking Law, ergo not illegal.




I'm done. You need medication, and I clearly need to get out more.

[geekalpha.livejournal.com]

Well, I guess I wasn't done.

I have been trolled again, I fear. I feel dirty.

Obama and the Assault Weapons Ban.

[montieth.livejournal.com]

You're one of the people I remembered stuck to their guns on Obama not being a bad politician/president for guns, dispite a LOT of contrary evidence.

He admittedly sought a ban on the sale of semi-automatic firearms back in
1998. However, people's opinions about things do change.


Still think he changed his opinion or do you think he was just telling people what they thought they wanted to hear? AG Holder just announced plans to re-introduce the Assault Weapons Ban. I'm pretty darn certain we'll see MORE types of weapons included in what's banned. Down to things with enbloc clips like Garands and weapons like the M1 Carbine classified as assault weapons. The versions I've seen floated around for the past year or so are FAR more intrusive and FAR more expansive.

We're also hearing rumblings of plans to close down exports of ammunition to countries like Canada and other State department level controls on the import of firearms parts to pretty much close down inexpensive soviet block parts for AK and SKS type weapons. Barrels, magazines, etc

Consider this the "I bloody well told you so." comment.

Re: Obama and the Assault Weapons Ban.

[montieth.livejournal.com]

1. Go look at my journal and note that I am not here anymore.


I couldn't' give a fetid pair of dingo's kidneys where you 'are'. I just had to see whether you could honestly stand your ground or not. Clearly you cannot.

2. Holder said that they wanted to reinstitute the ban on the sale of assault weapons.. He didn't say anything about adding new weapons to the ban or anything else.

Keep whistling past the graveyard. Nice that you CANNOT be intellectually honest though. Though, I think if you look at the various versions of AWB II that have floated around over the past few years, you'll find the scope and depth of the ban has been expanded. I'm pretty sure they'll try some confiscatory language in the proposed bill, at least early on, until the FBI shits a brick, again.

3. I couldn't give two shits if they did stop exporting ammunition to Canada or stopped the import of parts for AK and SKS type weapons.

Or I guess raise FFL fees or change interpretations that gun-smithing is manufacturing a new firearm. No infringement of our rights there right?

4.Grow the fuck up.

I am. Have you?

Your contention was that Obama was NOT anti-gun 'any more'. You can't even admit your contention was utterly wrong. Show some honesty like an adult instead of shifting your position or prevaricating.

Re: Obama and the Assault Weapons Ban.

[montieth.livejournal.com]

What is it going to take? President Obama himself, showing up at your door demanding your firearms? His AG nominee stated they, the president and his administration, are going to seek to renew the AWB. Your contention was that Obama had turned over a new leaf. You're wrong, no matter how much you try to shift the goal post.


What has actually been done rather than what might be done. Oh wait, you have yet to do that in any argument I've ever had with you.

I cited bills that Senator Obama voted for, his stated record, and his stated preferences. More recently I cited his own AG's public statement as a representative of the administration.

Maybe YOU should look at the facts.